M-1 Global Breakthrough - Full Results

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BDON911
8/29/09 12:32:40AM
M-1 Global Breakthrough Results

Fedor defeats Mousasi with an armbar and King Mo absolutely dominates Mark Kerr within the first 30 seconds of the fight. Where will King Mo fight next? We'll find out soon enough.
Khaos
8/29/09 12:41:32AM
I hated the whole thing, it was so bad, the most entertainment I got out of it was the couple of minutes they showed a shuttle launch.
jlock003
8/29/09 12:54:10AM
I couldn't agree more...it was terrible....awful match making, the exhibition was damn near staged, and if I have to hear anybody say "dey-boo" one more time I'll shoot myself.
BDON911
8/29/09 2:48:41AM
Here is the Fedor vs. Mousasi match

Fedor vs. Mousasi
Nightmare27
8/29/09 3:11:29AM
That shuttle lauch was stupid, the best part was the Naku fight. I was suprised to see him stand up and bang it out. Other than that the card was a joke.
MMA-San
8/29/09 6:31:49AM
I didn't even know Mousassi was having an exhibition match against Fedor...and I'm usually real up to date on my MMA News...I work in an MMA store.

When the hell was that announced. Where was the news for that?
Aether
8/29/09 7:07:33AM
I hadn't heard about it either until I watched inside MMA. It was a pretty entertaining match.

I don't really see how the above poster thinks it was "damn near staged" it was an exhibition grappling match. It's basically like sparring in front of a crowd, of course they're not going to beat each other up, they have fights that they need to be healthy for and they aren't even in the same weight class. I don't know if you expected Fedor to come out and beat Gegard into oblivion or something but that's basically what an exhibition match is, they're just out there having fun and showing the crowd some throws and locks.

On a side note, Mark Kerr looks absolutely brutal. Wow. He looks more like an eating machine than a smashing machine.
deformative
8/29/09 11:18:54AM
This card lost its two most intriguing bouts with Frye and Thompson pulling out. I'm sure King Mo would have beat Frye pretty easily as well, but he still would have been a much better match up than Kerr (at least Frye can slug it out)... and Nick Thompson against Amoussou would have been a great fight.
jlock003
8/29/09 2:12:27PM
I was referring to the idea that Gegard had Fedor locked in a very tight omoplata, that he simply let go. Fedor didn't pull out of it, or even role out, Gegard simply let go, Gegard also had an armbar that he allowed Fedor to turn into and never cranked. No I didn't expect anybody to beat anybody up, or for Mousasi to try and break Fedor's arm or vice-versa, but when Fedor got his armbar sinched in he pushed his hips through immediately. That's all I meant, I posted something similar in the forums section, and acknowledged that it may just be a biased perception. I'm not the biggest Fedor fan, and feel like his promotions protect him at all times. That doesn't mean that he isn't a badass, he's at worste the number 2 p4p guy on the planet, I don't refute that, but the exhibition looked (to me) like Gegard knew not to crank that omoplata or armbar even a little.
Jackelope
8/29/09 2:19:20PM
I would be absolutely astounded if anybody ever submitted Fedor, a grappler for years upon years, with an omoplata. Usually even Brown Belts with a couple years worth of experience won't get tapped by an omoplata. It's better used for a sweep than it is a submission, and I'm sure Mousasi is wildly aware of that.

As for rolling out of the armbar- It's not like Mousasi ever had Fedor's arm fully extended. Fedor had his hands clinched and I doubt that Mousasi has the strength to compete with Fedor when it comes to that. Not to mention that by virtue of Fedor's main style- Sambo- rolling out of an armbar and transitioning body positions is exactly what he's trained for. Watch a Sambo competition and you'll see exactly what I mean. Those guys roll and flip over each other a hundred times over in one match. It looked like a textbook escape to me for both Jiu Jitsu and Sambo.

To cap all of that off- it was an exhibition match. So even if everything I said here is a lie it doesn't matter. Because the very definition of exhibition defines it as something other than a full on competition.

jlock003
8/29/09 2:46:12PM
Fedor is protected by his promoters and managment. That's why he's not in the ufc, that's why he fights the lower end of the top 10 or the higher end of 20-11 every fight. That's why he wasn't penalized for grabbing the ropes against linland, and that's why everybody can keep saying he's the best int he world. Now do I think Brock, big Nog, Shane Carwin, Gonzaga, ect....could beat Fedor??? NO! He is a savage I mean thats not to say that any of those guys wouldn't have a shot because when you fight that level or competition day in and day out you are bound to get beat, but he is clearly the best hw in the world, and yet his promoters and managment, and government insist on keeping him protected. If this was "Just an exhibition" and it didn't really matter, why not let Mousasi win the damn exhibition? I'll give you that the omoplats is typically used as a sweep, but if you watched there was no damn role, Gegard just let it go, he didn't even use the move. Fedore didn't move when Gegard had the armbar until Gegard picked his leg up over Fedor's head and the Fedor turned in. Yes, Sambo guys are crazy good with rolling out of subs, but you are talking about a jiu jitsu practicioner who has submitted world renouned black belts in subs like triangles.....he's not exactly a slouch himself. I'm sorry but I honestly believe that so long as Fedor is represented by m-1 he'll never lose a fight and not necisarily because he earns every win. All this from an exhibition I understand, but I'm not sure it works any different with his other fights. Why didn't Fedor sign with the UFC??? Because m-1 wasn't allowed to co-promote...??? I'm tellin you those guys have a lot of control over his competition even when it's an exhibition. Am I just biased? Is there any validity to any of that? Seriously I may just have one hell of a slanted opinion, but I feel like it's substantiated.
Jackelope
8/29/09 4:46:45PM
Well in as much as you may feel you're right, and to an extent I do believe and agree with some disdain that M-1 protects its business asset (as would any company with any common sense) I would love for any person to walk right up to Arlovski, Lindland, or any other of Fedor's opponents and tell them that they took a dive.

I dunno, call me crazy but Arlovski sure pulled off being KTFO pretty well considering that he's not even an actor. I'm sure he'd agree with you wholeheartedly that he took a dive. Hell, he'd probably even want to be your friend and go out to have drinks with you after you told him that.

Like I said- I believe Fedor is protected by M-1 to a certain extent. I don't know if I buy into all this other stuff, though. I mean.. let's say Lindland had gotten the takedown on Fedor and the ropes were never grabbed. Then what? Would Lindland, a guy who isn't exactly known for vicious GnP TKO's, have GnP'd or submitted Fedor? Kind of doubtful IMO.

I think the answer is much more clear here. M-1 wants to co-promote, and the UFC doesn't. So M-1 has taken their ball and gone home.
Jesse_Canadian_MMA
8/29/09 4:51:56PM
The King was awesome but poor competition for him

and I swear if anyone takes that Fedor-vs-Mousasi fight seriously, just leave this board please- it was an exhibition match, where no strikes were thrown and both men said it was light sparring and having fun..
Aether
8/29/09 5:09:12PM
You didn't honestly think Gegard could've done anything with that omoplata did you? You must realize that Fedor and Gegard were both clearly allowing themselves to be put into locks without making any real effort to escape or avoid them, that's what an exhibition match is. Fedor could also have subbed Aoki in about 3 seconds if he really wanted to, but that would defeat the purpose of the exhibition, because they are there to put on a show for the fans, not to compete.

Gegard is also significantly weaker than Fedor, even if Gegard was trying to sub him he would most likely be able to power his way out of just about any sub attempt. Gegard may be a solid BJJ practitioner, but He isn't at the level of Big Nog in his prime, and we saw how easily Fedor shrugged all of Nog's sub attempts off.

I don't know. I think you misunderstand the purpose of an exhibition. They aren't intended to be trying to beat each other, they're there to put on a show and gain some exposure to help with their marketing. They're just playing around, both guys are clearly laughing and smiling the whole time.
TimW001
8/29/09 5:13:15PM
Good job King Mo, I really am liking this guy. I hope he gets some reasonable competition soon.
jlock003
8/29/09 6:51:48PM
Yes it's just an exhibition. So why have a winner right? Why have Gegard tap? Why not just keep rolling? I don't misunderstand the concept of an exhibition, it just strikes me as odd that every time Fedor is in an exhibition he comes out "winning" the light sparring session. If you acknowledge he's protected then you understand my point. I'm not contending that Mousasi could beat freakin Fedor, how many times have I said on this board that Fedor is the best hw in the world? He's a beast, but he doesn't fight top notch guys on a regular basis. No Arlovski didn't take a dive, neither did Silvia, nor did Linland, but none of those guys are top 10 guys, and if they were in the top 10 at the time they damn sure weren't in the top 5. Here's another quesiton....where is Brett Rogers in the top 10???? Well In some poles he made the list right around number 10, again he's a low level top 10er at that. One loss and he's off the list. My argument isn't "Fedor sucks cause he wouldn't sign with the UFC." That's fools logic I understand that it takes two to make a deal, and that the UFC was negotiating with managment and not the man himself, as a matter of fact, Dana still contends he's never sat down to talk to Fedor himself. The exhibition simply further proved to me that Fedor is protected by his promoters and given easy fights regularly, with an opponent in the back end of the top 10 sprinkled in to make him still look like the worlds best over and over again. That's it....that's all I'm saying....not that Fedor sucks....not that Mousasi could beat his ass....not even that Lesnar could....or mir....just that his promotion protects him and not in the way that any promotion with common sense would....more like the way a crooked failing organization would to try and stay afloat in the mist of a sea full of sinking mma secondhand companies.
george112
8/29/09 7:26:43PM

Posted by jlock003

Yes it's just an exhibition. So why have a winner right? Why have Gegard tap? Why not just keep rolling? I don't misunderstand the concept of an exhibition, it just strikes me as odd that every time Fedor is in an exhibition he comes out "winning" the light sparring session. If you acknowledge he's protected then you understand my point. I'm not contending that Mousasi could beat freakin Fedor, how many times have I said on this board that Fedor is the best hw in the world? He's a beast, but he doesn't fight top notch guys on a regular basis. No Arlovski didn't take a dive, neither did Silvia, nor did Linland, but none of those guys are top 10 guys, and if they were in the top 10 at the time they damn sure weren't in the top 5. Here's another quesiton....where is Brett Rogers in the top 10???? Well In some poles he made the list right around number 10, again he's a low level top 10er at that. One loss and he's off the list. My argument isn't "Fedor sucks cause he wouldn't sign with the UFC." That's fools logic I understand that it takes two to make a deal, and that the UFC was negotiating with managment and not the man himself, as a matter of fact, Dana still contends he's never sat down to talk to Fedor himself. The exhibition simply further proved to me that Fedor is protected by his promoters and given easy fights regularly, with an opponent in the back end of the top 10 sprinkled in to make him still look like the worlds best over and over again. That's it....that's all I'm saying....not that Fedor sucks....not that Mousasi could beat his ass....not even that Lesnar could....or mir....just that his promotion protects him and not in the way that any promotion with common sense would....more like the way a crooked failing organization would to try and stay afloat in the mist of a sea full of sinking mma secondhand companies.



the reason fedor won is becuase.it is absolutely stupid for them to let gegard "win".the reason i say this is because yes most of us know it was only an exhibition.but SOME people actually think it was a real fight.why they think this i have no idea.but it happened.now my point is.those people that actually believed (or even didnt believe) it was a real fight are just going to go around saying "OMG this little guy totally whooped Fedors ass" etc. that = negative advertising.people are actually going to think he lost to someone but the reality is he didnt.so when people see the ads for an upcoming fight that has fedor in it and they hear or see that hes undefeated in his last so and so fights.their going to think hey what a minute he lost to that little guy gegard.i dont trust this company their lieing.
Aether
8/29/09 7:33:23PM
you're kidding yourself if you don't think sylvia and arlovski were in the top10 or even 5 at the time of their fights. He was also scheduled to fight Barnett who again has been considered a top5 heavyweight for pretty much his entire career.

I don't know, you can believe whatever you want, I don't really feel like arguing conspiracy theories, personally. I find this discussion to be pretty outlandish.
jlock003
8/29/09 8:50:15PM
Lmao! Sylvia was coming off of a loss to Big Nog, a lackluster win over tiny ass Brandon Verra, and a manhandling by Couture....top 5???? No way man. Barnett Hell yeah top 5...**** probably top 3. Arlovski???? Seriously? Top 5??? No way...he lost to Sylvia twice and then fought nobodies (Outside of Werdum) until he fought Fedor. Roy Nelson, Ben Rothwell, Marcio Cruz...yeah decent fighters, but not top level. I would've loved to see the Barnett fight. Just because I want to see Fedor fight the best in the world....not just once every three years, but constantly. Do you personally think that Fedor himself wouldn't? I doubt it, so where does that leave us??? It leaves us with his promoters and managment picking his fights for him. It's not a conspiricy theory when the **** is documented. Dana said himself that he cannot sign Fedor because of his managments refusal to co-promote inspite of the fact that the UFC was willing to offer m-1 procedes from the ppv cards Fedor fought on. For the last time...he is the baddest hw on the planet. He would murder most of the UFC hw division 99% of the time, but everybody loses eventually. Everybody. I want to see him fight competition that is high enough consistently to see just how good he is. Now my understanding is he has 3 fights left under contract with m-1, I am willing to bet he resigns another contract with that sorry ass promotion when this one is over. The best fighters in the world are only as good as the guys they work for and with. Fedor's only negetive is his managment team and the promotion he exclusivly fights for. Somebody posted it as clear as day earlier....M-1 saw that the UFC was unwilling to co-promote so they took their ball and went home. Problem is that leaves Fedor taking his ball and going home too. Looks bad for all parties involved and is the reason that other organizations can't survive in todays market.
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