Posted by telnights
All this BS for one fighter. It just sad how much stuff Strikeforce has to deal with just to have Fedor fight.
Posted by fightscoops
I don't disagree with Fedor here - they guys deserves to get paid and I support him holding out for the best deal around. Belts mean nothing to this guy who is virtually undefeated and seemingly still getting better as he ages...
Posted by fightscoops
If you're 'The Last Emperor' you do, and obviously it has worked as Strikeforce is reportedly willing to renegotiate and pay him whatever. Fedors market value has skyrocketed since his American debut against Rogers and hes trying to capitalize on that... why should SF reap all the rewards of his next fight when its his name that brings in the revenue?
In theory I agree with you - you sign a contract and stick by it - but this isnt the goodwill games, its professional sports in the year 2010 and this is how the modern game is played...
Posted by fightscoops
If you're 'The Last Emperor' you do, and obviously it has worked as Strikeforce is reportedly willing to renegotiate and pay him whatever. Fedors market value has skyrocketed since his American debut against Rogers and hes trying to capitalize on that... why should SF reap all the rewards of his next fight when its his name that brings in the revenue?
In theory I agree with you - you sign a contract and stick by it - but this isnt the goodwill games, its professional sports in the year 2010 and this is how the modern game is played...
Also what happens if he wins again is M-1/Fedor's management going to want more again.
Posted by fightscoops
Also what happens if he wins again is M-1/Fedor's management going to want more again.
Possibly... if the revenue share skyrockets again M1-Global might want a bigger piece of the pie, and Strikeforce will probably end up giving it to him. It takes two to tango, and the fact that Strikeforce is playing ball with Fedor and renegotiating just reiterates how powerful his position is. This guy is HUGE around the world and could easily make 8 figures in Japan - if he's going to spend time in the US hes going to want equal compensation...
Posted by fightscoops
Possibly... if the revenue share skyrockets again M1-Global might want a bigger piece of the pie, and Strikeforce will probably end up giving it to him. It takes two to tango, and the fact that Strikeforce is playing ball with Fedor and renegotiating just reiterates how powerful his position is. This guy is HUGE around the world and could easily make 8 figures in Japan - if he's going to spend time in the US hes going to want equal compensation...
Posted by prozacnation1978
he needs to cut loose of m-1 like gegard did
i am telling you, after gegards fight in april his contract is up, he will go to the ufc
Posted by telnights
When you think about it what does M-1 bring to the table other than Fedor? They don't have a network TV deal or any real major TV deal to speak of..
Posted by telnights
From many inside sources that have reported on the deal M-1 already gets a %50 of everything Strikeforce makes from any card Fedor fights on.
Posted by AnDeRsonDaSiLvA
M1 secured tv deals for Fedor vs Rogers ...
Bulgaria: Ring TV
China: Guangdong Television
Finland: Urheilukanava (Finnish Sport Television)
Indonesia: Tiger Gate
Israel: EGO Channel
Latin America: HBO Latin America
Malta: Melita TV
New Zealand: Sky Sport New Zealand
Romania: Boom TV
Russia: NTV Plus, Channel One
South Korea: Seoul Broadcasting System
Sub-Saharan Africa: Setanta Sports
Turkey: Digiturk
Ukraine: Megasport
United Kingdom: Bravo
25 million people worldwide watched Strikeforce's Fedor vs Rogers . 16 million of the viewers came from Russia's Channel one . How many of those Russians would have watched the card without Fedor on it ?
Posted by AnDeRsonDaSiLvA
Lemme guess , Kevin Iole ? The very guy who works for yahoo's UFC section , same guy who works for the UFC's online PPV distributor? No way he would have an agenda![]()
Gary (Jerry) Millen
We're not asking for anything that's crazy, we're willing to take half the risk. We're willing to take half the profit or half the loss.
I'm sorry but I still wondering what they bring to the table other than sucking the life out of other promotions.
Posted by fightscoops
They bring exactly what AndersonDaSilva talked about - international promotion! M1-Global is smart, they understand their limitations in promoting events worldwide as they specialize in Russia and Eastern Europe while recognizing that if they partner with established US brands such as Affliction and Strikeforce they can engage more American fans. You basically said it yourself - who is M1-Global? You don't know because you live on this side of the Atlantic and they don't promote to you...
We have a tendency to be very ego-centric as American fans in not being able to recognize that there is an enormous fight market around the globe, and though America has huge potential as an MMA market we have barely scratched the surface in terms of how big this sport is internationally...
And do you really think M-1 could have made those deals without the backing of Strikeforce?
When was the last time M-1 put on a show that was majorly broadcast without the backing by a company with name and pull?
Last event they put on without backing that had any fighters even worth talking about was M-1 Global "Breakthrough" which was almost a joke event because they changed locations twice and had fighters quieting because they couldn't get their stuff together. I'm sorry but I still wondering what they bring to the table other than sucking the life out of other promotions.
No not just him there where a lot of reports coming out about it. Since your the one wondering spend a little time looking it up.
But let me help you this is direct quote from Gary (Jerry) Millen.
" Gary (Jerry) Millen
We're not asking for anything that's crazy, we're willing to take half the risk. We're willing to take half the profit or half the loss."
That was related to the UFC deal and I don't see why the Strikeforce deal would be any different.Unless they just didn't want Fedor fighting in the UFC. Which maybe the case but from the info we have their deal involved them taking half the profit. Now it says taking half the risk as well but we know how that worked out for Affliction.
Posted by AnDeRsonDaSiLvA
Atleast a few of those tv deals were already secured for m-1 promoted events. How many? I dont know , but ive watch m1 promoted shows in the past ripped from a few of those channels . I also dont think Strikeforce could of secured those deals without the help of m-1 . UFC has not even got some of those markets .
Posted by AnDeRsonDaSiLvA
The example you gave , M-1 Global breakthrough , was broadcast live on HDNET. I would have to say thats backing by a company with name and pull. Since its not according to you , how about the M1 challenge series broadcast weekly on HDNET over the last couple of years? How about m1 selection in korea that was broadcast live on sherdog FOUR days ago? What about all their shows broadcast across european television? They may not have had "any fighters even worth talking about"(although i would disagree) according to you , but they were still majorly broadcast "without backing".
Posted by AnDeRsonDaSiLvA
Jerry millen is an absolute moron. That quote was taken from live MMAjunkie radio (which i was coincidentally listening live to) where he was provoked into making emotional statements . That same show where he said fedor would fight brock for free in his gym at stary oskol , as well as a bunch of other nonsense that m1 and fedor clearly wouldnt agree to . I wouldnt take anything Jerry says as a fact.
Since you say there were a lot of reports coming out about it , care to points me out to any others ?
Its also ignorant to assume the proposed ufc deal (which you really dont know the specifics of , neither do I , Iole or any of these other "reporters" ) would be the same deal offered to strikeforce.
'm sure someone in M-1 Global is smart but that doesn't mean they aren't exploiting their fighter and other promotions to line their own pockets
I am officially over it. i though with his stint in affliction he would transfer to the UFC so I got excited but .....no more!
Posted by fightscoops
Dude Fedor is an OWNER in the company... and according to the numbers I've seen M1-Global does a hell of job bringing in viewers around the globe...
I'm not assuming anything about you, I'm saying 'you' as in 'we here in the USA' dont see M1's promotions because we aren't their target audience, its not a personal attack, just the reality...